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dani
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Hi.

I see Zextras will launch the new Carbonio project. I guess it'll be based on Zimbra. Can you give some more info ? Will Carbonio CE will be equivalent to Zimbra OSE, and Carbonio Enterprise to Zimbra + Zextras suite ?

Will there be an easy migration path from Zimbra to Carbonio ?

 

Regards,

Daniel


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Arman Khosravi
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Posted by: @dani

Can you give some more info ? Will Carbonio CE will be equivalent to Zimbra OSE, and Carbonio Enterprise to Zimbra + Zextras suite ?

Hi Daniel,

Zextras Carbonio is a stand-alone product, independent from Zimbra. It uses a part of the Zimbra code, as well as other third-party software parts (Postfix, MariaDB, LDAP).

It comes in two different versions to address different needs:

  • Zextras Carbonio
  • Zextras Carbonio CE

Zextras Carbonio CE, the open-source and free product, is suited for small infrastructure, but it is a complete product, which offers not only e-mail and calendar features, but also extra communication and collaboration features.

Zextras Carbonio, on the other hand, offers much more capabilities for communication and collaboration (e.g. video conference), and more powerful admin-side features, as it is designed for larger infrastructure. Soon we will publish more information about the complete set of features of the two products.

With both products, you have absolute sovereignty over your data.

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Arman Khosravi
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Posted by: @dani

Will there be an easy migration path from Zimbra to Carbonio ?

 

Migration is also possible and we will soon publish more information on the process in our community.


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phoenix
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I'm looking forward to seeing what the CE version has to offer, it's a plus that we'll be able to migrate to that version. 🙂 With the imminent 'death' of CentOS will we be able to install on other distributions such as RockyLinux etc.....?


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Arman Khosravi
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I'm looking forward to seeing what the CE version has to offer, it's a plus that we'll be able to migrate to that version. 🙂 With the imminent 'death' of CentOS will we be able to install on other distributions such as RockyLinux etc.....?

Hi @phoenix,

Yes. Besides the most used distributions in a production server (Ubuntu, RedHat, and CentOS) that are already supported, there is also a plan to support RockyLinux in the future.


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bulletxt
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@arman 

Hi, will Carbonio CE bundle Policyd like Zimbra? Also, will it expose Caldav server exactly like Zimbra?

 


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JimP
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Posted by: @arman

Zextras Carbonio is a stand-alone product, independent from Zimbra. It uses a part of the Zimbra code, as well as other third-party software parts (Postfix, MariaDB, LDAP).

Hi @arman. If the above statement is true, wouldn't Carbonio need to be licensed with something compatible with GPLv2 (to make use of the Zimbra code)? What is the license for Carbonio?


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Hi @jimp, Carbonio CE project will handle multiple OSI licenses for different packages to respect the original license form the 3rd part components we are including.

That said all the Zextras Code in Carbonio CE is AGPL v.3 and the non-code part is CC


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Hi @bulletxt .

Yes Carbonio and Carbonio CE will include both a DAV server (CalDav/CardDav) and CBPolicyD among the others.


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JimP
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Thank you @paolo! I look forward to seeing the product once it is available!

 

Buona fortuna!


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dbayer
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Can you use zextras with the CE version? Specifically the ActiveSync feature?

 

Thanks,

Daniel


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Paolo
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Hi @dbayer

I guess you are referring to Zextras Suite.
The short answer is no, Zextras Suite is designed for Zimbra OpenSource.
If you are using CarbonioCE (100%Free and OpenSource)and you want enterprise features (such as Activesync), you can upgrade to Carbonio (OpenCore based on CarbonioCE).

 


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koma87
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Hi @paolo,

How work the licence plan for carbonio ? We buy initial licence with essentials features ( like carbonio ce) and if we need more features like activesync, hsm, backup ... we upgrade licence ( like zextras suite). 

Do you have a minimum order  for carbonio or it's open for all size of company ? 

If actually we use zimbra OSE+ zextras suite pro the equivalent is carbonio ? 

 

Thanks

Have a good day. 

Jeremy


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Posted by: @koma87

Hi @paolo,

How work the licence plan for carbonio ? We buy initial licence with essentials features ( like carbonio ce) and if we need more features like activesync, hsm, backup ... we upgrade licence ( like zextras suite). 

 

Carbonio's license is designed to be flexible and tailored to customers' needs.

Do you have a minimum order  for carbonio or it's open for all size of company ? 

Carbonio is a product design for Gov agencies and Service providers, while CarbonioCE includes all the standard features an SMB company needs for free.

If actually we use zimbra OSE+ zextras suite pro the equivalent is carbonio ? 

 

No Carbonio is different from ZimbraOSE+Suite because, with Carbonio, we don't have any limitation by a 3rd part platform.
For instance, HA, Service discovery, or microservices require different architecture.

Thanks

Have a good day. 

Jeremy

Thank you

 

Paolo

 

 

 


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jwundrak
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@Paolo,

thanks for your answer.

I think the main question is: would be Carbonio a replacement for Zimbra?

I have to be revalid my licence for Zextras, but I'm unsure, if I should buy a licence for one year or only for a half year and migrate to Carbonio.

My Setup, and maybe the other users, that ask questions

- Zimbra OSE + Zextras for x Users (Using S3 backup)
- running in a docker env, and this is sometimes horrible

 

You exposed, that you packaging zimbra to the default package-managers, which is currently not done (?). But if Carbonio could be replace this setup, I would prefer to go into this setup.
For this step, it is required to know:

* Is Carbonio a full-replacement of Zimbra, which is not  answered in the top?
* are all features of Zextras part of Carbonio-Pro?
* Are the prices of Carbonop-Pro round-about equals to Zxetras?


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