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Paolo
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Posted by: @jwundrak

@Paolo,

thanks for your answer.

I think the main question is: would be Carbonio a replacement for Zimbra?

I have to be revalid my licence for Zextras, but I'm unsure, if I should buy a licence for one year or only for a half year and migrate to Carbonio.

Zextras Suite is and will remain the best choice for all the Zimbra OSE users.

My Setup, and maybe the other users, that ask questions

- Zimbra OSE + Zextras for x Users (Using S3 backup)
- running in a docker env, and this is sometimes horrible

 

You exposed, that you packaging zimbra to the default package-managers, which is currently not done (?). But if Carbonio could be replace this setup, I would prefer to go into this setup.
For this step, it is required to know:

* Is Carbonio a full-replacement of Zimbra, which is not  answered in the top?

Carbonio is an Opensource and Private alternative to Cloud Solutions or Legacy Proprietary platforms. 

If you are asking if Carbonio cover all the features Zimbra has the answare is yes. but if you are asking if Carbonio is intended to replace Zimbra the answare is no because they are different products for different targets. 

* are all features of Zextras part of Carbonio-Pro?

Yes Carbonio will have all the feature Zextras Suite has plus many others.

* Are the prices of Carbonop-Pro round-about equals to Zxetras?

No, Zextras Suite is an extension to Zimbra OSE while Carbonio is a full stack product. Pricing model is also different because is designed for Gov, Regulated Enterprises and Service Providers

 


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bulletxt
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Hi, where to find documentation steps on how to migrate from Zimbra CE to Carbonio CE ??

Thanks a lot!


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Sylvio
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Hi, same for me,
I would also like to know if it's still possible or when will it be possible to do a migration from the latest Zimbra CE to Carbonio CE (both on Ubuntu 18.04). Will it be as easy as migrating a Zimbra CE using the Zextra backups/migration tool ?

 

 


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vegivamp
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Posted by: @paolo

If you are asking if Carbonio cover all the features Zimbra has the answare is yes. but if you are asking if Carbonio is intended to replace Zimbra the answare is no because they are different products for different targets.

That's an interesting statement 🙂 What would you say are the key differences between the target audiences for Zimbra versus Carbonio ?


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vegivamp
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@paolo - no news on the migration path from Zimbra OSE yet ?


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Paolo
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Posted by: @vegivamp

@paolo - no news on the migration path from Zimbra OSE yet ?

We are preparing articles and documentation about Migrations to CarbonioCE but today our main focus is to complete CarbonioCE with all the code we still need to move from our internal repo to Github.

I would say Migration is a step you can consider as soon as CarbonioCE reach its completeness.

Please consider to support us with testing and reporting in this beta phase.

 

Thank you 

 

Paolo 


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maxxer
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Posted by: @paolo

If you are asking if Carbonio cover all the features Zimbra has the answare is yes. but if you are asking if Carbonio is intended to replace Zimbra the answare is no because they are different products for different targets. 

What do you mean with Carbonio is not intended to replace Zimbra? If they share (almost) all the features and the open source codebase, what's available in Zimbra that will be missing in Carbonio CE? Thanks


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tgxperience
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I think they are trying to move really fast and they haven't sorted out exactly what Carbonio will be and at the same time trying not to make critical mistakes. I am in the same boat as everyone else here. We are all disillusioned with Zimbra and the constant games they play. We are looking at Zextras to fill a void that we have or soon will have. What I am choosing to do is beta test as Paolo has suggested and find out exactly what Carbonio is and is not. It's not done or complete at this point for sure but it shows promise. They are going 90 miles and hour on this stuff so keep an eye on it. I think it will be 2023 before it is in a viable production form that you will consider deploying. In the meantime Zimbra OSE and Zextras is your best bet. What I like about Zextras is they give you great products at reasonable cost. That will always be a winner. Go Zextras!


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rwebb616
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Posted by: @paolo

Hi @dbayer

I guess you are referring to Zextras Suite.
The short answer is no, Zextras Suite is designed for Zimbra OpenSource.
If you are using CarbonioCE (100%Free and OpenSource)and you want enterprise features (such as Activesync), you can upgrade to Carbonio (OpenCore based on CarbonioCE).

 

So, are you saying that ActiveSync is NOT going to be available in the CE version?  It is currently listed in the client under settings/auth.   This is a pretty important feature for Outlook users.  At least in Zimbra using Zextras Mobile it was relatively inexpensive to add ActiveSync capability.  Is there going to be any love for Outlook users? 

Rich


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MACscr
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@rwebb616 yep, im a bit lost here as well. Zimbra is pretty much no more, so doesn't make any sense to continue with it. Definitely wanting to replace my Zimbra CE + Zextras Mobile Sync with Carbonio


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Mediaf
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Hello

I'm waiting to hace a migration procedure from Zimbra to Carbonio. It's not possible for me to use Carbonio if I can't transfer my 250 mail accounts to the new system.

when do you think there will be such a tool ?


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skullz
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Hello. See, there is a backup of the mailbox in Zimbra to the same zip only when transferring and trying to stick this mailbox on carbonio with this code
/opt/zextras /bin/mailbox -zm name@domain.com -t 0 postRestURL "//?fmt=zip&meta=1&resolve=skip" "/root/mail/name@domain.com.zip"
it gives out:
ERROR: zclient.IO_ERROR (Connection refused) (cause: java.net.ConnectException Connection refused)
What could be the problem and how can this error be defeated?


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Md. Shariful Islam
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@mediaf 

Hi Mediaf,

We have conveyed your concern to our team and we are working to provide you a tool to migrate your zimbra server to carbonio. Meanwhile, did you tried imapsync?

Thanks


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Md. Shariful Islam
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@skullz 

Hi Skullz,

I guess you have a backup that you want to upload in carbonio. Due to some structural differences between zimbra and carbonio, your mentioned method will not work. We have conveyed similar concerns of our members to our team to get a solution to it.

Meanwhile, did you try imapsync to migrate data from zimbra to carbonio?

Thanks


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bulletxt
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@shariful-islam 

Hi, having a tool to migrate zimbra accounts to a Carbonio is what we will really need in the 2023.  Thanks for your huge work!


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